tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post6680252577956640700..comments2024-03-26T13:06:41.178-04:00Comments on Jagat: Expect to get kicked in the buttJagadananda Dashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-9043817228931804432013-05-04T09:53:29.555-04:002013-05-04T09:53:29.555-04:00Of course, Gaura, ISKCON was Prabhupada's baby...Of course, Gaura, ISKCON was Prabhupada's baby. Why should he abandon it? It was the crowning jewel of a success. And glorious indeed a success it was.<br /><br />I don't begrudge those who are best suited to working in the institutional setting. For many people it is the best way. <br /><br />I personally am driven to go beyond the limitations that are naturally created in that kind of framework. Different strokes for different folks.<br /><br />As long as you don't see my point, you were not meant to see it.<br /><br />Jai Radhe.Jagadananda Dashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-1148698137011074752013-05-03T09:12:36.218-04:002013-05-03T09:12:36.218-04:00Jagadananda prabhu, You have said in your article ...Jagadananda prabhu, You have said in your article "Ultimately, though institutions and organizations may serve a temporary benefit to (mostly) beginners in spiritual life, at some point they outlive their utility to the individual practitioner."<br /><br />Srila Prabhupada remained loyal to his ISKCON institution up until his last breathe. How do you explain this in light of your comment above. He never taught us by his example that he outlived the utility of ISKCONGaurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09785005351509001218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-14098650451831791562012-07-28T21:58:25.721-04:002012-07-28T21:58:25.721-04:00Scholarship is a also a particularly insidious ins...Scholarship is a also a particularly insidious instigator of pride, arrogance and conceit. As far as institutions go, the colleges are about as degraded and degrading as any institution can be outside of prison. Religious institutions with all their faults are still immeasurably more auspicious than the colleges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-22171494481993997782012-07-17T16:26:00.934-04:002012-07-17T16:26:00.934-04:00"Taking shelter of a guru or human institutio..."Taking shelter of a guru or human institution for physical needs, etc., is not shelter, not surrender."<br /><br />That's one of the problems with the ashram model. It attracts people who are looking to shirk personal responsibility and mooch off of others their entire lives.<br /><br />Ayn Rand is disgusted. Marx no doubt very pleased.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-59903734327396702522012-07-13T14:12:04.308-04:002012-07-13T14:12:04.308-04:00This explains why Kripalu followers are still stuc...This explains why Kripalu followers are still stuck in JKP cult, many consider him as their 'Gopi Bhava Shiksha Guru'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-79903860309299624562012-07-12T13:44:22.242-04:002012-07-12T13:44:22.242-04:00Seeing the commentary it excited, yes, Satya Devi....Seeing the commentary it excited, yes, Satya Devi.<br /><br />As to whether institutions have utility, I think they do. <br /><br />Gurus are many in life. Your mother is your first guru and probably the most influential. She was a guru in great intimacy, but as you grow older, certain levels of that intimacy are naturally transformed and cease to have the absolute quality they once had.<br /><br />The guru is generally a father figure (duh!) and in many ways it replicates the kind of relation we had with the physical father, though it hopefully helps you make some progress. But it is characterized by the kind of childishness and inequality of relationship that is also eventually outgrown. Must be outgrown. <br /><br />Friendship is another kind of love, and erotic love is the greatest of all. In each of these relations, there is guru in intimacy. Guru comes closer and closer. <br /><br />You cannot be born without a father and mother. So to be born in sahaja prema yoga, you need both diksha and siksha gurus.Jagadananda Dashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-82199579025593686952012-07-11T15:17:15.843-04:002012-07-11T15:17:15.843-04:00Were you inspired to write this because of recent ...Were you inspired to write this because of recent problems with Ravindra Swarup Das?Satya devi dasihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00692460035072254794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-91551496656829722192012-07-10T12:23:40.201-04:002012-07-10T12:23:40.201-04:00This is slightly confusing. How do we go about fin...This is slightly confusing. How do we go about finding a guru in the first place, when it seems all seekers of spiritual bliss are ensconced within institutions? Is it really possible to stay out of institutions and still be able to find a guru, aspire for that highest bliss, Prema?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com