tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post6103291856762250628..comments2024-03-26T13:06:41.178-04:00Comments on Jagat: Manjari-bhava and sambhogaJagadananda Dashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-61558364939636444062009-09-10T20:07:33.549-04:002009-09-10T20:07:33.549-04:00I read Govinda lilamrita for the first time the ot...I read Govinda lilamrita for the first time the other day , it was the first time i had read a book about intimate pastimes of Radha and Krishna. I was quite shocked actually , the words lovemaking are used very frequently , there is a bed , they spend all night in the bed partaking in lovesports and if a manjari is lucky she can watch , they are greeted the next morning by parrots and woken up. In my mind when i was reading all i could comapre it to was modern lusty affairs. What are these love sports and what do they do for so long in the bed.Nuclear Indiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073310273311418770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-60997953684287708472008-09-24T13:52:00.000-04:002008-09-24T13:52:00.000-04:00so nice...the typed words on the screen don't matc...so nice...<BR/>the typed words on the screen don't match the feelings reading your post has given me.<BR/>i'll whisper...<BR/>thank you... ...radhesyamradhesyamradhesyam...skippy longbeachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05640462922707850162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-76144413058617816062008-09-23T09:39:00.000-04:002008-09-23T09:39:00.000-04:00Rasa exists in Radha and Krishna, but it exists in...<I>Rasa exists in Radha and Krishna, but it exists in the sahridaya samajika--the cultivated audience, also. The cultivated audience, in this case, is the pure devotee in manjari bhava (tad-bhavecchatmika).</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed, if the rasa wasn't shared with the audience, it could be said that it didn't exist even for Radha and Krishna themselves! In other words, the purpose of the lila is rasa, and rasa is obtained from a specific setting. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, speaking in the mood of Srimati Radharani, said to Krishna/Jagannath, <I>"For most people, the mind and heart are one, but because my mind is never separated from Vrndavana, I consider my mind and Vrndavana to be one. My mind is already Vrndavana, and since you like Vrndavana, will you please place your lotus feet there? I would deem that your full mercy."</I><BR/><BR/>Vrindavana lila requires the participation of newer and newer participants. In RRS Prabhodananda Sarasvati wrote, "<I>yat kinkarisu bahusah khalu kaku vani nityam parasya prursya sikhanda mauleh<BR/>tasyah kada rasa nidher vrsabhanu jayas tat keli kunja bhavanagana marjani syam."</I><BR/><BR/>The manjaris, Rupa and Rati, set the pace and the mood in this lila. Krishna begs these two to be allowed in to the kunja where Srimati Radharani is angry and refuses to see him. The manjaris will or will not let him in. He places his head at their lotus feet and begs, "Just for a moment, let me take darshan of my beloved". And Rupa and Rati manjari reply, "Never! This can never be!" And so goes the lila, on and on. This is shared rasa - Radha, Krishna, and their assistants. Indeed, rasa cannot be without sharing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com