tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post246143497344486261..comments2024-03-26T13:06:41.178-04:00Comments on Jagat: Personalism is the Essence of Yugala BhajanJagadananda Dashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-15336728751733347532017-01-22T22:24:25.513-05:002017-01-22T22:24:25.513-05:00One on the paramahamsa path learns to separate mil...One on the paramahamsa path learns to separate milk from water. That is what it means to be on the paramahamsa path. <br /><br />viṣād apy amṛtaṁ grāhyam<br />amedhyād api kāñcanam<br />nīcād apy uttamaṁ jñānaṁ<br />strī-ratnaṁ duṣkulād api<br /><br />One would accept nectar even from poison and gold even from a filthy place. One<br />the highest knowledge can come from even a lesser person, and a jewel of a wife can come from even a lowly family.<br /><br />So similarly, one should learn to extract prema from premabhasa.Jagadananda Dashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-21609524082846145642017-01-22T22:14:03.031-05:002017-01-22T22:14:03.031-05:00It may be a necessary step on the way for those wh...It may be a necessary step on the way for those who cannot jump to the highest level immediately. Hence I have consistently associated this practice with the middle stage. You have to ask, What is the end game? What does this sadhana _do_?Jagadananda Dashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-53649616551201615562017-01-20T02:03:35.492-05:002017-01-20T02:03:35.492-05:00I am absolutely agree with everything is written h...I am absolutely agree with everything is written here. Except for one only thing. Such kind of sadhana will not lead one to the spiritual realm. This world made especially for those who want to experience relationship of Radha and Krishna bodily. One may do that while remembering Radha and Krishna (or not). First is grate. That is much more better than mundane sex. But, such a sadhana will lead one to his respective sadhya which is one more birth and one more death, and one more chance to be so-called Radha and Krishna. bhakti-sadhana uderstood to be not different from it's sadhya. But there is no place for such a relationships as illicit "lovemaking" between associates of Radha and Krishna in spiritual world. Still it could have a place in material world. One may be a devotee and prefer to stay in material part of God's creation. There is no fault in such a choice. Sahaja-sadhana could be a good prequalification for bhakti-path (for those who attached to mundane sex). Better to connect one's romantic relationships with spiritual realm then falsely reject it because of influence of common preaching. But one should clearly understand that such a "sahaja-sadhana" is condemned by moralists and can't be preached as religious practice. Idea of sahaja-sadhana surely will be misunderstood by mass and becomes merely a sinful activity which will cause a sinful reactions such as unwanted children, <br />single mothers and etc. Sahaja-sadhana doesn't match to any of dharma-shastra. Instead of this grihastha-life is preached for those who attached to sexual life. I'am completely agree that one can understand something about madhurya-rasa thru the scope of his own experience of love. But in the same way virgin may realize something about madhurya-rasa thru the scope of his romantic fantasy and expectation. That is even much more preferable because mundane love is always paired with dirt, violence, abuse and etc. <br />Sahaja-sadhana is some kind of deviation which is destined to disappear. It doesn't have neither spiritual meant nor religious. Враджасундар Дасhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07812159404215383212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-72872229403318806742012-05-25T19:43:05.781-04:002012-05-25T19:43:05.781-04:00How does your sacralization of human sexuality dea...How does your sacralization of human sexuality deal with the reality of homosexual love?<br /><br />Just as celibates dismiss the reality of heterosexual love, many heterosexuals assume that their love is somehow the highest or even the only truly valid kind.<br /><br />Yet, if we take your presentation in its broadest implications, shouldn't two homosexual lovers be able to relate their love to the Divine? Maybe by contemplating the emotional tie between Gaura and Gadadhara? Or would you advocate some other template as more appropriate? In any case, to the extent that parakiya-rasa involves allowing love to transgress social boundaries, homosexual union is surely even more an exemplar of that than out-of-marriage heterosexual union. Anyway, for gay couples for whom Radha and Krishna aren't the template, where would you suggest they direct their meditation -- or are they beyond the pale of your theories?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com