tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post2266184883963220694..comments2024-03-26T13:06:41.178-04:00Comments on Jagat: Henri Jolicoeur on some old-time ISKCON homosexualsJagadananda Dashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05887720845815026518noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-63421333548197495512023-07-11T07:13:29.429-04:002023-07-11T07:13:29.429-04:00This is "Henri Jolicoeur's new youtube ch...This is "Henri Jolicoeur's new youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/@divinebrightlight/videosRai Vinodinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18172334131099940807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-49017082205086444512021-02-21T06:11:34.968-05:002021-02-21T06:11:34.968-05:00It seems obvious the most anti-family man
was Sidd...It seems obvious the most anti-family man<br />was Siddhanta Saraswati. SP followed his example<br />but I doubt he gay.JaduGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10254703196013479311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-70980255871795191672019-06-23T16:05:41.061-04:002019-06-23T16:05:41.061-04:00Jeez...why hasn’t anyone ever considered that Prab...Jeez...why hasn’t anyone ever considered that Prabhupad was gay? Surrounded by a bunch of homos massaging and serving his every need, worshipping an effeminate, child God, then, like many closeted, closeted, religiously repressed gays, “hating” every minute of it?...if he was such a Saint, why is the organization he created be such a colossal shit sandwich?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09372348536894213986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-7561361181843823212019-02-18T14:13:18.135-05:002019-02-18T14:13:18.135-05:00In the earliest days of ISKCON in New York City, P...In the earliest days of ISKCON in New York City, Prabhupada and Kirtanananda for several months slept together in the same bedroom. <br /><br />If Prabhupada was perfect, then his example was perfect, and the Rocanas of today need to get over their homophobia and accept Prabhupada's example. On the other hand, if it was wrong for Prabhupada to sleep with Kirtanananda, what else was Prabhupada wrong about? Was Prabhupada (who manifestly hated his ex-wife) also dealing with feelings that married men could channel or sublimate in the physically affectionate Bengali culture, but that in the West were demonized as "effeminate" or "homosexual" feelings? Was his closeness to Kirtanananda an attempt to have something in the USA that he had had in Bengal? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-80961950980640013812018-04-06T09:44:50.120-04:002018-04-06T09:44:50.120-04:00Oh? So all is Srila Prabhupada's fault? Even n...Oh? So all is Srila Prabhupada's fault? Even now in 2018, I am saved because of Srila Prabhupada. You talk about that all fault lies in Prabhupada? He says: Chant 16 rounds atleast daily! Did any of you do that? Follow the 4 regulative scriptures your entire life, read his unmodified books. Has any of these done that? Remember that verse in Bhagavad Gita where Krishna says: Chapter 7: Knowledge of the Absolute <br />TEXT 3<br />manusyanam sahasresu<br />kascid yatati siddhaye<br />yatatam api siddhanam<br />kascin mam vetti tattvatah<br />SYNONYMS<br />manusyanam—of men; sahasresu—out of many thousands; kascit—someone; yatati—endeavors; siddhaye—for perfection; yatatam—of those so endeavoring; api—indeed; siddhanam—of those who have achieved perfection; kascit—someone; mam—Me; vetti—does know; tattvatah—in fact.<br />TRANSLATION<br />Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection, and of those who have achieved perfection, hardly one knows Me in truth.<br /><br />So there will be so many who will try. So many great loving humans right? have you not understood it? We all on this material planets are sinners and should be thankfull that we got into contact with this great Acarya. We do not deserve to know him, nor do we deserve his association, still he came on a boat, after 4 heartattacks and spread Krishna Consiousness in the "Great" Materialistic civilisation, the western world. All of you talk yet no one talks about Krishna nor Prabhupada's order and books. Only homo this and lesbian that. This proves how fallen we are. Me to, am fallen. I am not homosexual but do have attraction for women. How? Because I am an animal. I am in bodily concept of life, that's why. And when reading Prabhupada's unchanged books, I realise, that the fault lies with me, I do not blame Prabhupada nor do I go critise him like all you. Again, we simply do not deserve Srila Prabhupada. He IS perfect, and everything he said is 100% true. He gave those western homosexuals a chance and look what they did. He proved the value of Western Culture, which is lower then the stool of a pig.108prabhupadanugas@gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31351038.post-55093226877131217652011-12-21T00:08:40.495-05:002011-12-21T00:08:40.495-05:00Omkara too, eh?
I know his family, and this is pu...Omkara too, eh?<br /><br />I know his family, and this is puzzling. I heard he died of AIDS, while his wife had no such problems. So we who knew him inferred as it seems here suggested, ie he was 'closet gay'. <br /><br />But, I just met an old French friend of Omkara from before, and he says Omkara's devotee wife was his partner in a free living spiritual commune before they 'joined up'. 'So where is my old friend Omkara?' Ummm, AIDS death, apparently gay. 'Gay? What are you talking about? Ridiculous'. This from an 'alternative' old hippy, still living the life, if you met him, you would also be puzzled. But of course we live in our cocoons and spout simple formulae and all seems ok. <br /><br />So it's puzzling, and over 40 years I have had extensive contacts in the Gay Community, a range and variety, family and close friends, yet nowadays I doubt the whole thing more than ever, at least in its simplistic public form, as yet another myth. Humans have problems, but simplistic solutions just make more problems later on. Love solves nothing in the long run. Not a damn thing. <br /><br />Michel Houllebecq really has our measure, I think.visvatmanoreply@blogger.com